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		<title>Retrospectiva</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nu, nu am abandonat proiectul. Insa am folosit ultima perioada pentru a asculta, a observa, a citi si a intelege ce se intampla in biserica Adventista. Ceea ce am publicat pana acum a dat nastere la reactii diverse. Pe unele le-ati intalnit chiar aici pe blog. Altele mi-au fost comunicate personal, inclusiv in cele doua vizite [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2182&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/forgiveness.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2186" title="forgiveness" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/forgiveness.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>Nu, nu am abandonat proiectul. Insa am folosit ultima perioada pentru a asculta, a observa, a citi si a intelege ce se intampla in biserica Adventista. Ceea ce am publicat pana acum a dat nastere la reactii diverse. Pe unele le-ati intalnit chiar aici pe blog. Altele mi-au fost comunicate personal, inclusiv in cele doua vizite in Romania in 2011. Una dintre reactii este de a pune sub semnul intrebarii utilitatea unui astfel de demers. Din nefericire, aceasta abordare provine din partea unor fosti informatori sau din partea familiilor lor. Legitima, precum se poate observa. O alta reactie vine din partea unor cercetatori recenti ai dosarelor care au fost motivati de ceea ce au citit aici pe blog si au vrut sa se edifice personal ca nu sunt lucruri inventate sau taiate &#8220;croitoriceste&#8221;. Ii felicit pentru curaj.</p>
<p>Sunt impresionat insa de numarul mare de tineri (si nu doar) care ramane sceptic fata de persoanele in viata care au colaborat. Intrucat dintre acestia cei mai cunoscuti au fost pastorii sau administratorii bisericii, lipsa de incredere in acestia este la cote alarmante. Cum majoritatea lor sunt pensionari, ma ingrijoreaza faptul ca neincrederea se reflecta asupra pastorilor tineri care nu au avut de-a face cu regimul comunist si Securitatea. Cat de departe trebuie sa ajungem pentru a realiza ca ruptura intre administratori/pastori si restul bisericii va produce mai devreme sau mai tarziu consecinte drastice?</p>
<p>Am terminat de citit inca o carte scrisa de supravietuitorii genocidului din Rwanda (a cata, a douasprezecea probabil?). Acest studiu de caz, pe langa cel al apartheid-ului Sud-african ofera lectii valoroase pentru rezolvarea tensiunii in biserica si in societatea romaneasca. In primul rand, o biserica si o societate matura va oferi un cadru de iertare celor care vor sa marturiseasca pacatele turnarii fratilor lor sau a semenilor cu care veneau in contact. Fara o astfel de atitudine matura si sincera din partea majoritatii sunt putine sanse ca tradarile din trecut sa fie marturisite. Increderea nu se recastiga decat acordand incredere.</p>
<p>Nu pot sa nu constat ca declaratiile semnate de TOTI pastorii adventisti cu cativa ani in urma, ca nu au colaborat cu Securitatea, nu au facut decat sa arunce in derizoriu intreaga istorie. Dosarele de la CNSAS (precum si arhivele fostului Departament al Cultelor) scot la iveala detalii si fapte confirmate de cei care au trait acele vremuri. Oricat de &#8220;falsificate&#8221; ar fi, exista o samanta de adevar. Declaratiile cu pricina, semnate, doar au ascuns gunoiul sub pres. Dar acolo s-a descompus si a intrat in putrefactie. Si miroase ingrozitor. Te cuprinde un sentiment de revolta cand vezi ca oameni care au fost platiti de Securitate cu bani sau avantaje sociale/bisericesti incearca sa (re)scrie istoria bisericii sub comunism, sfidand chiar pe cei care am trait o parte din zilele acelea. Cineva trebuie sa faca curatenie si sa spuna lucrurilor pe nume. Cu dragoste si ingaduinta, cu iertare si invitatia la marturisire. Asa arata o biserica matura.</p>
<p>Biserica Adventista trebuie sa invete sa ierte dupa modelul Divin, acordand har celor gresiti dar spunand lucrurilor pe nume. Pacatul ramane pacat, chiar daca &#8220;dragostea acopera totul&#8221;. Caracterul echilibrat al unui Dumnezeu drept si iubitor (ordinea e aleatorie) trebuie manifestat si de cei ce se pretind urmasii sai. Rwanda a infiintat tribunalele &#8220;de la umbra copacilor&#8221; unde comunitatea locala i-a audiat pe cei implicati direct in uciderile din cele &#8220;100 de zile&#8221;. Africa de Sud a instituit o comisie care a facut practic acelasi lucru. Aducerea la lumina a faptelor si oamenilor a produs vindecare, a oferit sansa iertarii si impacarii. Maturitatea se demonstreaza prin echilibrul confruntarii cu realitatea, nu prin maturarea sub pres a faptelor si consecintelor. Mi-as dori ca pastorii tineri care alcatuiesc administratia bisericii Adventiste de astazi sa aibe curajul acestei initiative dupa modelul lui Daniel care si-a asumat pacatele inaintasilor sai. Rezultatul va fi fara indoiala redesteptare si reforma ca urmare a marturisirii pacatelor si a impacarii atat de necesare. Daca biserica este un spital, atunci sa ofere vindecarea divina. Nu putem sa iertam cu adevarat daca nu intelegem mai intai istoria in integralitatea ei. Iar increderea are cea mai mare valoare cand este acordata cunoscand magnitudinea realitatii.</p>
<p>Iosif ar fi putut sa se razbune pe fratii sai care l-au urat, tradat si vandut. In schimb, el le-a oferit posibilitatea marturisirii si i-a trecut chiar printr-un test. Insa lucrurile nu au fost trecute sub tacere. Ele au fost discutate, marturisite, iertate. Iar mai tarziu, dupa moartea patriarhului Iacov, cand fratii sai s-au temut ca s-ar putea sa mai existe resentimente in inima lui Iosif, acesta i-a asigurat ca iertarea este completa. Este nevoie de tact, de timp, si de rugaciune. Se va ridica biserica Adventista din Romania la nivelul maturitatii indicate de Scriptura?</p>
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		<title>Fragmente din marturia unui securist pocait &#8211; 4</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 00:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prima doamna a tarii avea o deosebita bucurie cand ii prindeam pe crestini, mai ales pe cei ce treceau granita. Si mai ales familii, ca sa fie inchisi sot si sotie, iar copiii sa ramana prin orfelinate, ca sa fie distrusi, familii distruse. Avea o bucurie enorma pentru asa ceva. Informatorul ma anunta ca din [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2165&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/byebyelittleone.gif"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2180" title="byebyelittleone" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/byebyelittleone.gif?w=300&#038;h=200" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a>Prima doamna a tarii avea o deosebita bucurie cand ii prindeam pe crestini, mai ales pe cei ce treceau granita. Si mai ales familii, ca sa fie inchisi sot si sotie, iar copiii sa ramana prin orfelinate, ca sa fie distrusi, familii distruse. Avea o bucurie enorma pentru asa ceva. Informatorul ma anunta ca din biserica penticostala din Hunedoara un grup de 17 insi va trece granita dincolo. Vai ce bucurie pe mine ca-i prind pe toti, am zis eu, si le voi pune catusele si ii voi duce plocon lui tovarasa: Poftim pocaiti prinsi! Mi-am pregatit cadrele, mi-am pregatit echipajele, am intarit paza, aproape era om langa om la granita, exact locul pe unde trebuia sa treaca calauza. Informatorul era in adunare, bineinteles, ala stia ce spune, era un caz autentic, real, nu era o poveste. Si noi asteptam din moment in moment sa apara pocaitii. Dar nu mai apareau. La un moment dat vine o caruta cu niste tarani, cu niste palarii, localnicii. Si au inceput sa sape la porumb, si pana au sapat, au sapat, au ajuns pana in capat aproape de granita, ca acolo e porumb, se seamana locul. La un moment dat lasa sapele jos si trec dincolo, fuga. Aia erau pocaitii. Dumnezeu le-a dat intelepciune. Domnul Isus era cu ei, de fapt, si deloc cu noi. Am ramas asa de manios, si imi mancam mainile, ca ce raportez eu acuma la generalul Pacepa, pentru ca el era seful nostru. Ce spun eu acuma? De fapt maine sunt un soldat prost, din gradul de maior. Asta stiam ca ma degradeaza imediat. Sau peste cateva zile voi fi in fabrica, muncitor. Si mi-era groaza. Cum au putut sa-mi scape, cum am putut sa nu gandesc eu? Ei, cum or fi sapat, nu m-am dus sa ma uit eu, repede or fost in capat acolo cu sapele, si au trecut. Si ne mai faceau si din mana asa, tai, tai.</p>
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		<title>Fragmente din marturia unui securist pocait &#8211; 3</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Atunci cand era cazul aveam doi sau trei informatori in fiecare casa de rugaciune. Stiam tot ce se intampla. Si chemam pe prezbiterul care nu vroia sa conlucreze cu noi sau pe pastor. Si stiam ca au mai marit casa de rugaciune cu doi sau trei metri, si ca au lucrat noaptea. Stiam tot ce [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2171&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/demolishing-church-300x205.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2176" title="demolishing church-300x205" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/demolishing-church-300x205.jpg?w=500" alt=""   /></a>Atunci cand era cazul aveam doi sau trei informatori in fiecare casa de rugaciune. Stiam tot ce se intampla. Si chemam pe prezbiterul care nu vroia sa conlucreze cu noi sau pe pastor. Si stiam ca au mai marit casa de rugaciune cu doi sau trei metri, si ca au lucrat noaptea. Stiam tot ce se intampla. Si atunci a inceput lupta cea mare, daramarea bisericilor. . . . Capii religiosi au fost imediat luati. Biserica n-a stiut aproape mai nimic.</p>
<p>De ce lupta Securitatea impotriva bisericii? Pentru ca se aduceau prejudicii statului: refuzul bauturilor alcoolice, tigarilor, televizoarelor. Imaginati-va  ce s-ar intampla daca s-ar pocai un oras, un municipiu, bancile ar da faliment.</p>
<p>In anumite locuri lucrarea Duhului Sfant a fost oprita, acolo unde oamenii lui Dumnezeu erau luati si inlocuiti cu oamenii nostri. Biserica aceea era o biserica moarta. Puteau sa vina acolo oricat de multi pocaiti, acea biserica nu mai era vie. Erau doar oameni care se adunau intr-o adunare, atat. Nu se putea intampla nimic acolo, si puteam sa-i conducem foarte usor pe acestia. Stiam exact tot ce se intampla si eram linistiti. Iar in bisericile de la tara sau mai mici, acolo unde erau oameni mai in varsta care incercau sa se opuna, atunci veneam cu batai, amenzi, ei stiu cat de mult au avut de suferit. In anumite judete unii si-au pierdut chiar viata.</p>
<p>Un frate a fost bagat pentru delapidare, trebuia sa-i gasim ceva. Ordonanta de retinere si incepere de dosar penal. Sa nu va ganditi ca omul a facut vreo fapta antisociala, nu. A primit niste banuti din Germania si a mai marit putin casa de rugaciune. Securitatea ura lucrurile acestea. . . . Bisericile trebuiau sa ramana cat mai mici. Atunci, pentru un metru in plus trebuiau sa plateasca cu viata, altii cu ani de inchisoare. Procurorul a decis ca omul trebuie sa marturiseasca. Il bateam la talpa, si in locurile sensibile.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fratii de dincolo doreau sa ajute, trimeteau carti de cantari si Biblii. Nu ajungeau la dumneavoastra. Noi lucram si zi si noapte, neincetat, pachetele erau verificate foarte minutios. Telefoanele celor ce erau suspecti erau bine controlate.  Acele persoane care veneau de la PTTR nu erau altii decat ofiteri de-ai nostri care puneau “musculita” acolo ca [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2166&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/wiretapping.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2168" title="wiretapping" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/wiretapping.jpg?w=291&#038;h=300" alt="" width="291" height="300" /></a>Fratii de dincolo doreau sa ajute, trimeteau carti de cantari si Biblii. Nu ajungeau la dumneavoastra. Noi lucram si zi si noapte, neincetat, pachetele erau verificate foarte minutios. Telefoanele celor ce erau suspecti erau bine controlate.  Acele persoane care veneau de la PTTR nu erau altii decat ofiteri de-ai nostri care puneau “musculita” acolo ca sa poata ofiterul sa asculte tot in casa dumneavoastra, de acolo de langa perete.</p>
<p>In cadrul bisericilor am pus informatori, am pus oameni care sa verifice tot ce se intampla in adunare. Acestia erau Iuda Iscarioteanul, oameni platiti din cadrul Ministerului de Interne. Nu faceau altceva – erau botezati, bineinteles, asa stiati dumneavoastra ca sunt fratii dumneavoastra, dar departe de a se numi frati. Cand veneau frati din strainatate ei erau primii care bagau casetofoanele in prize. Caseta ajungea la noi pentru ca vroiam sa stim tot ceea ce se intampla acolo. Iar strainul care aducea doar doua-trei cuvinte, elogii la adresa de unde vine, i se punea interdictie pe viza si pe pasaport, nu mai putea sa vina in tara niciodata.</p>
<p>Activam in cadrul bisericilor, acolo unde erau batrani care nu vroiau sa asculte de ceea ce spuneam noi. Le dadeam amenzi sau daca era cazul ii terminam de acolo. Nu v-ati intrebat cum de stiau si politistii si Securistii locul unde va adunati, casa unde va intalneati? Era Iuda in adunare, si omul acesta era platit bine ca sa faca lucrarea aceasta. Iar daca mai sunt, Domnul Dumnezeu sa-i binecuvanteze.</p>
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		<title>Fragmente din marturia unui securist pocait &#8211; 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 03:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Din cultele religioase, biserica care a fost cel mai oprimata a fost cultul penticostal. Ortodocsii sau catolicii faceau voia noastra. Ce le spuneam sa faca, aia faceau. Penticostalii aveau ceva deosebit: lucrarea Duhului Sfant. In vremea aceea, la cabinetul 2 s-a pus problema daca putem sa starpim pe acesti penticostali. Articolul 30 din Constitutie nu ne [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2160&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/securitate-exil.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2162" title="securitate-exil" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/securitate-exil.jpg?w=300&#038;h=200" alt="" width="300" height="200" /></a>Din cultele religioase, biserica care a fost cel mai oprimata a fost cultul penticostal. Ortodocsii sau catolicii faceau voia noastra. Ce le spuneam sa faca, aia faceau. Penticostalii aveau ceva deosebit: lucrarea Duhului Sfant. In vremea aceea, la cabinetul 2 s-a pus problema daca putem sa starpim pe acesti penticostali. Articolul 30 din Constitutie nu ne dadea dreptul acesta. Asa ca am inceput sa actionam asa cum ne invatau instructorii nostri: cum sa lovim sub centura, ca cei din afara sa nu afle de crimele si marsaviile pe care le savarseam. In trei ani de zile au reusit sa faca din mine un calau, un om care ucide cu sange rece nu oameni vinovati ci oameni nevinovati, copii ai lui Dumnezeu.</p>
<p>Trebuie sa stiti ca in fruntea cultului era un om de-al nostru care intotdeauna supraveghea activitatea cultului si se supara foarte mult cand cei care erau pusi sa faca conform planurilor noastre nu ascultau. Multi erau botezati cu Duhul Sfant si noua nu ne placea lucrul acesta. Multi dintre batranii adunarii plecau pe sate, vesteau evanghelia si staruiau dupa Duhul Sfant. Si noi nu vroiam sa se intample asa. Si atunci a trebuit sa lucram cu mare grija ca acesti oameni sa fie suprimati, sa fie ucisi. Si dumneavoastra ati vazut niste afise pe pereti: disparut,disparut, disparut. Oamenii acestia dispareau la Jilava. Acolo intrau in Fortul 13 si iesirea lor era pe cosuri, cu fumul.</p>
<p>Am avut doi crestini, o batranica si un batranel, au cantat pana in ultima clipa. S-au tinut de mana si au cantat. Au spus ca ei merg acasa. Noi radeam si am spus: cum sa mearga acasa? Care-i casa lor? De fapt ce casa au ei acuma, doar crematoriul? Ea a dat sa planga putin si sotul a imbarbatat-o: acum ne intalnim cu Isus, nu plange, fii bucuroasa. Au fost pocaiti cu adevarat. Si-au dat viata, martiri ai secolului 20.</p>
<p>Fratele Mardare, vestea evanghelia prin piete, nu-i pasa de nimeni. Era lovit la Securitate, batut, adus inapoi iarasi, dar n-a cedat nici un milimetru. Martirajul nu s-a terminat, va incepe in curand, iarasi.</p>
<p>(<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGNsIRbAkjA">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGNsIRbAkjA</a>)</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Va invit sa cititi articolul lui Vladimir Tismaneanu de pe http://tismaneanu.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/demonologie-soteriologie-si-comunism/ Filed under: academic, comunism, Intelectuali, Istorie, politica<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2154&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Va invit sa cititi articolul lui <a class="zem_slink" title="Vladimir Tismăneanu" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Tism%C4%83neanu" rel="wikipedia">Vladimir Tismaneanu</a> de pe <a href="http://tismaneanu.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/demonologie-soteriologie-si-comunism/">http://tismaneanu.wordpress.com/2011/10/18/demonologie-soteriologie-si-comunism/</a></p>
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		<title>Agentul 007 &#8211; Ingrijorat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Oct 2011 01:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No comment! Nota ofiterului: “Matei m-a intrebat ceva ‘confidential’. Daca note date de el pot ajunge la Departament. I-am raspuns raspicat ca asa ceva nu s-a intamplat si nu se va intampla. ‘Matei” a avut in vedere probabil cand a pus intrebarea pe Artinian. Cred ca acum s-a convins ca Artinian este omul Departamentului. ‘Davidescu’ [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2078&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Nota ofiterului: “Matei m-a intrebat ceva ‘confidential’. Daca note date de el pot ajunge la Departament. I-am raspuns raspicat ca asa ceva nu s-a intamplat si nu se va intampla. ‘Matei” a avut in vedere probabil cand a pus intrebarea pe Artinian. Cred ca acum s-a convins ca Artinian este omul Departamentului. ‘Davidescu’ n-a spus nimic despre aceasta problema.”</p>
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		<title>Dunarea(nu Ion) &#8211; 46</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interceptarile telefonice in cazul&#8221;Responsabilul&#8221; iti lasa un gust amar. E de prisos sa le redau pe toate intrucat se repeta. Personajul in cauza era obsedat de cateva teme, insa predomina frustrarea legata de istoria demiterii si incercarile si sperantele ca va veni si ziua razbunarii si a redobandirii puterii si pozitiei. Este macinat de faptul ca [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2124&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/car-accident-crash.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2149" title="car-accident-crash" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/car-accident-crash.jpg?w=300&#038;h=288" alt="" width="300" height="288" /></a>Interceptarile telefonice in cazul&#8221;Responsabilul&#8221; iti lasa un gust amar. E de prisos sa le redau pe toate intrucat se repeta. Personajul in cauza era obsedat de cateva teme, insa predomina frustrarea legata de istoria demiterii si incercarile si sperantele ca va veni si ziua razbunarii si a redobandirii puterii si pozitiei. Este macinat de faptul ca exact cel pe care l-a urat cel mai mult a ajuns presedinte in locul sau, si sunt note in care se vorbeste din nou de Tachici, si de diploma falsa pe care i-a facut-o Pirvan Marin, sau pe care acesta a semnat-o.</p>
<p>O alta discutie telefonica interceptata relateaza despre noii conducatori, huiduiti dupa moartea lui Tachici. Cei doi interlocutori isi impart responsabilitati cu cine sa vorbeasca fiecare si sa ii atraga pentru alegeri. Ceea ce este dureros este ca un simplu dosar, ca cel al agentului &#8220;Dunarea(nu Ion)&#8221; contine nenumarate referiri la persoane din administratia Uniunii si Conferintelor in dreptul carora se spune: &#8220;X este agentul nostru.&#8221; Uneori se specifica data recrutarii, sau actiuni deosebite in care au fost implicati, eventual legatura cu dosarul de fata. Verificand lista administratorilor din perioada acoperita de dosar, ma vad obligat sa cresc procentajul dela 80%, cat am estimat initial, la 90% cat mi s-a sugerat de cei care au fost la curent cu reteaua informativa a vremurilor respective. Putini au ramas neimplicati in jocul perfid al Securitatii. Un singur exemplu de mentiune a biroului operativ, din multele existente, pe o nota informativa:</p>
<p>&#8220;Crisan, Popa, Gherase, Artenian, Baciu, Florescu sunt agentii nostri. Baciu, Gherase si Florescu fac pronosticuri cu privire la schimbarea conducerii. Popa a tradat legatura si Crisan e necinstit ca nu ne spune acest lucru.”</p>
<p>Epilog? In 1977 fostul agent &#8220;Dunarea(nu Ion)&#8221; a fost scos la pensie din cadrul pastoratiei. Din cate imi amintesc a murit intr-un accident ciudat in 1998 (ma puteti corecta daca este cazul) cand, dupa o vizita la doctorul Moldovan Ioan, unul din putinii sai prieteni pe termen lung, asteptand in statia de troleibuz, a fost lovit in plin de un autoturism care a urcat pe trotuar in viteza.</p>
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		<title>Dunarea(nu Ion) &#8211; 45</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[O nota informativa vine sa confirme interceptarile telefonice din care reiese aspiratia fostului agent &#8221;Dunarea(nu Ion)&#8221; dupa putere si invidia de care este stapanit. Ceea ce duce la incercarea de a controla prin barfa (un alt fel de &#8220;informare&#8221;). Sursa &#8220;Venus” informeaza la data de 5.04.1973 despre o convorbire intre Pavel Crisan si pastorul Penca Ilie. &#8220;Crisan i-a relatat lui [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2121&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/envy.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-2145" title="envy" src="http://remembering7.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/envy.jpg?w=300&#038;h=225" alt="" width="300" height="225" /></a>O nota informativa vine sa confirme interceptarile telefonice din care reiese aspiratia fostului agent &#8221;Dunarea(nu Ion)&#8221; dupa putere si invidia de care este stapanit. Ceea ce duce la incercarea de a controla prin barfa (un alt fel de &#8220;informare&#8221;).</p>
<p>Sursa &#8220;Venus” informeaza la data de 5.04.1973 despre o convorbire intre Pavel Crisan si pastorul Penca Ilie. &#8220;Crisan i-a relatat lui Penca Ilie din Tr. Severin, jud Mehedinti ca &#8217;Prin Bucuresti sunt mereu seisme dar fara rezultate. Florescu este in fine pensionar (Vasile Florescu, fratele fostului presedinte de Uniune, Dumitru Florea, a murit in Octombrie 1974, fiind inmormantat pe 30.10.1974). Aici au fost cercetari cu problema pastorilor unguri care s-au adunat prin munti si si-au facut unul altora. Apoi cu problema tipariturilor (Curiere, imnuri). Acuma s-au facut niste sesizari contra lui Ioan Danetiu.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[O alta interceptare telefonica reda o discutie intre Pavel Crisan si Enache [Marin?] in care cel din urma ii sugereaza lui Crisan sa se impace inainte de moarte cu Presedintele inca in exercitiu in 1974. Crisan raspunde cu o serie de invective: &#8216;Cu cine sa te impaci? Asta n-a fost nici om, nici caine, nici crestin, nimic. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=remembering7.wordpress.com&amp;blog=3110790&amp;post=2118&amp;subd=remembering7&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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